Children should be seen and not heard
#1
Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:15 PM
I totally get it now by the way.
#2
Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:20 PM
#4
Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:41 PM
Edited by A Boy Named Crow, 27 February 2012 - 05:42 PM.
#6
Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:51 PM
i8hibsh, on 27 February 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:
I totally get it now by the way.
Why should they be seen and not heard?
Maybe in certain circumstances - but for the most part, why shut them up if they want to talk? They're kids ffs.
#7
Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:55 PM
BRING IT BACK
#8
Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:55 PM
#9
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:25 PM
Don't measure everyone by the 'cannae be arsed' school of parenting you have witnessed today. Some of us are doing a great job raising well behaved, responsible and delightful children.
Edited by Craigieboy, 27 February 2012 - 06:26 PM.
#10
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:27 PM
#11
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:29 PM
#12
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:39 PM
Craigieboy, on 27 February 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:
Don't measure everyone by the 'cannae be arsed' school of parenting you have witnessed today. Some of us are doing a great job raising well behaved, responsible and delightful children.
How do you know? You are on JKB and Hibs.net most of the day
#13
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:43 PM
Had a hard slog in the gym too so went through for a jacuzzi and steam.It must've been 7pm and there were 5 or so kids in there screaming at the top of their voice without pausing for breath.
Now the accoustics in a pool meant that the screams were like drills penetrating your skull.
It did not cross their parents minds that it was not a public baths and everyone around them pays a lot of money to relax in there.
Edited by i8hibsh, 27 February 2012 - 06:44 PM.
#15
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:48 PM
#16
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:54 PM
i8hibsh, on 27 February 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:
Had a hard slog in the gym too so went through for a jacuzzi and steam.It must've been 7pm and there were 5 or so kids in there screaming at the top of their voice without pausing for breath.
Now the accoustics in a pool meant that the screams were like drills penetrating your skull.
It did not cross their parents minds that it was not a public baths and everyone around them pays a lot of money to relax in there.
I've said it before, I'm sure there is a physiological, hormonal or whatever reaction in a person when they have children - they just can't see how annoying they are being. It's probably a survival of the species type thing.
#17
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:56 PM
i8hibsh, on 27 February 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:
Had a hard slog in the gym too so went through for a jacuzzi and steam.It must've been 7pm and there were 5 or so kids in there screaming at the top of their voice without pausing for breath.
Now the accoustics in a pool meant that the screams were like drills penetrating your skull.
It did not cross their parents minds that it was not a public baths and everyone around them pays a lot of money to relax in there.
Kids in having fun at swimming pool shocker! You're right, it's not a public baths - which means the parents also pay for their kids to use the pool.
Don't get me wrong, kids need to learn manners and good vs bad behavior but they also should be allowed to be kids. I take my boys to many places and sometimes they do something 'wrong' and they are spoken to but i want them to have fun and laugh and play - not sit in a corner being quiet because it might piss someone off if they're making noise. We take our boys out to dinner every week so they are used to it, and receive compliments on how well behaved they are - but they're not quiet.
#18
Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:10 PM
A Boy Named Crow, on 27 February 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:
Very rare? Nonsense.
As for 'seen and not heard', what a load of p1sh. Great for raising North Koreans, but not much else.
#19
Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:50 PM
Craig Gordons Gloves, on 27 February 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:
Don't get me wrong, kids need to learn manners and good vs bad behavior but they also should be allowed to be kids. I take my boys to many places and sometimes they do something 'wrong' and they are spoken to but i want them to have fun and laugh and play - not sit in a corner being quiet because it might piss someone off if they're making noise. We take our boys out to dinner every week so they are used to it, and receive compliments on how well behaved they are - but they're not quiet.
They were having fun but everyone around them weren't. How is that fair?
#20
Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:57 PM
Or would you rather just wait and come on kickback and bitch about it?
sorry, wrong time, wrong place, wrong thread.
#22
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:31 PM
Craig Gordons Gloves, on 27 February 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:
life isn't fair.
I was brought up on the following saying....
E.g
"Can I have a comic please"
"i'll comic you in a minute"
"I want a Star Wars figure"
"i'll Star Wars figure you"
#23
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:35 PM
#25
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:44 PM
i8hibsh, on 27 February 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:
E.g
"Can I have a comic please"
"i'll comic you in a minute"
"I want a Star Wars figure"
"i'll Star Wars figure you"
"Can I get a blow up girlfriend"
"I'll blow up girlfriend you"
"Can I steal the neighbours daughters pants from the line"
"I'll steal the neighbours daughters pants from the line you"
"Too late, I already have them..............."
FTFY
#26
Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:06 PM
i8hibsh, on 27 February 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:
E.g
"Can I have a comic please"
"i'll comic you in a minute"
"I want a Star Wars figure"
"i'll Star Wars figure you"
dear me, and you're complaining about the manners of today's kids? It's "please may i have...." not "can i have"
#27
Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:17 PM
#28
Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:39 AM
#30
Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:49 AM
i8hibsh, on 27 February 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:
Had a hard slog in the gym too so went through for a jacuzzi and steam.It must've been 7pm and there were 5 or so kids in there screaming at the top of their voice without pausing for breath.
Now the accoustics in a pool meant that the screams were like drills penetrating your skull.
It did not cross their parents minds that it was not a public baths and everyone around them pays a lot of money to relax in there.
So this is a problem with the parents and not the children for not being sociably responsible.
Your post kinda outlines that too.
#31
Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:50 AM
#32
Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:52 AM
#34
Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:27 PM
#35
Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:02 PM
Generally, I take my kids out to places where they can be themselves and be with other kids; swimming classes, friends houses/gardens, play parks, sports, the beach and lots of other out-doors stuff.
I would avoid places where people without kids, or don't like them tend to be; especially if they're really bitter old folk.
#37
Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:41 PM
A Boy Named Crow, on 27 February 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:
Similarly, there seems to be a correlation between not liking children and being an insufferable jeb-end.
Which is handy.
#38
Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:23 PM
Have some respect ffs, I'd have got a leathering for some of the stuff I've heard. Bairns on the bus hame,some of them could honestly do with a slap.
#44
Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:45 AM
Creepy Lurker, on 28 February 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:
Which is handy.
My beef is with ignorant parents. As so many have said here, kids are kids - they don't belong everywhere though, and that's the parents' call.
#46
Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:57 PM
#47
Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:55 PM
Creepy Lurker, on 29 February 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:
No.
They done a great job. I consider myself a very reasonable individual who knows right from wrong and had a great upbringing.
Times have changed,what was once acceptable may not be now. I was never battered or anything like that.
I wouldnt see the problem in kids gettin 'a smack' within reason. For me we live in a bit of a molly coddle society these days.
Overall with kids, I blame the parents,especially yours.
;D
Edited by J.C 7, 29 February 2012 - 02:03 PM.
#50
Posted 29 February 2012 - 03:06 PM
J.C 7, on 29 February 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:
They done a great job. I consider myself a very reasonable individual who knows right from wrong and had a great upbringing.
Times have changed,what was once acceptable may not be now. I was never battered or anything like that.
I wouldnt see the problem in kids gettin 'a smack' within reason. For me we live in a bit of a molly coddle society these days.
Overall with kids, I blame the parents,especially yours.
;D
In my experience, smacking your child shows a lack of basic parentic skills.
Don't get me wrong, I've done it on occasion. But there are many other ways to discipline your kids without physically assaulting them.
With our third kid we have started to use other methods. I wish we had used these mehods with our first and second rather than smacking (or hand tapping).
Physical assault is not good corrective discipline.











